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# Monday, March 28, 2011
Uniforms in the Family
Posted by Maureen

It's not too late to enter your ancestral bad hair photos in my blog contest. See details in last week's post. I can't wait until you see what folks sent in! 

In the meantime, it's time for another photo mystery. This one is a 20th century challenge.

Nancy Yates sent in a few pictures of her father, taken when he was about 15 years old, between 1930 to 1932. In the first one, he's standing alone wearing a uniform with plain sleeves.

yates1.jpg

In the second he's wearing a different uniform with hash marks on the sleeve indicating his rank of corporal. He's standing with his sister.
Yates2.jpg

yates3.jpg

The mystery is the uniform. It doesn't look like a Boy Scout uniform. It's too bad I can't read the pin on his hat or the badge on his other sleeve. 

Nancy knows her Dad once served in the Civilian Conservation Corp as an adult. Men had to be at least 17 years old to serve in the CCC.

So what uniform is it? I'm not sure. There were several groups for teens in the 1930s. The 4-H Club, the Future Farmers of America and the Junior Birdmen of America are a few prominent groups, but this uniform doesn't represent any of those organizations. A great book on the period is William H. Young and Nancy K. Young's The 1930s (Greenwood Press, $25.00).

One lead is a group sponsored by the American Legion. They formed the Air Cadets in 1933, to train young men as pilots in case of war.

Do you have any ideas? I'm still looking.


1930s photos | children | unusual clothing
Monday, March 28, 2011 7:12:50 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)  #  Comments [12]
Thursday, March 31, 2011 4:25:10 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
I'm not sure when it was founded but the Civil Air Patrol might be an option. I know they existed in the 50s and would have worn uniforms with ranks.
Linda Curtis
Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:02:19 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
My first thought was a military school of some kind, not like a West Point Academy, but something on a smaller, more regional or local scale. He looks young, but you may have a birth year, and know he only LOOKS young. I see now that he was about 15 in 1930-32, so I think a military type scoop is still a good choice
Madeline Lynch
Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:03:02 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
I'd have to agree and lean toward a military school of some kind.
JK
Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:25:42 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
I was going to say military school, as well, but we have pix of 2 young uncles in military-style uniforms from around the turn of the 19/20th century. As far as we know, they did not attend any military school and we've been wondering if these are photographer-staging costumes. Is that a possibility?

Frankie
Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:33:52 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
Is she sure about the year(s)? I have a picture of my father in his US Army uniform when he first enlisted in the 1930's that looks exactly like this one. Even the pockets on the jacket are identical, the belt and the pin on the hat and collar. Note the jodphur style pants with leggings. Also, I dragged the picture into my iPhoto and tweaked it; there are 2 stripes on his right sleeve in the second picture, and a shadow where the sleeve is wrinkled from the way he is holding his arm. I would say it is US Army.
Arla Woodling
Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:26:12 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
Arla is right, uniform looks like one an uncle wore in the mid to late 1930's. I would say US Army.
Joan Moody
Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:29:58 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
Consider that he may have been in a high school ROTC program. See http://www.ihsa.org/initiatives/hstoric/marksmanship_boys.htm for info on Chicago Public High Schools ROTC and photos of uniforms which look very similar. See http://s589.photobucket.com/albums/ss331/andsoforth/?action=view&current=chicagorotcpin1.jpg for image of Chicago PHS ROTC pin.
Chris in ABQ
Friday, April 01, 2011 12:17:56 AM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
I say Army because of Corporal that rank is usually Army..The pants I want to say motor cycle or Cavlery?? I've looked at CCC and most of the other sites My dad was Marine his was similar,but not. Not Air Force or Navy
Patti Borre
Friday, April 01, 2011 2:05:47 AM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
Was the Jr. R.O.T.C. in existence then? That could explain a military looking uniform.
Judy Juntunen
Friday, April 01, 2011 5:18:17 AM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
Being 15 was not a limitation of joining the national Guard at that time. My father joined on his 16th birthday in 1937. Simple act of lying about your age and they looked the other way. The lapel cut looks Army but the breast pocket cut is a bit different from it from 1937. Real close though.

Ken
Ken Piper
Friday, April 01, 2011 6:01:51 AM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
He is probably in ROTC in his school. My father was in high school ROTC and wore a uniform that was almost the same as the men on active duty.

From a photo I recently saw in the Tacoma News Tribune there was a group of men from the local CCC. On their sleeves were diagonal bars instead of chevrons.

The pants and putties would be the standard uniform of that general era from what I remember. Looking at the photo of my father in his high school ROTC uniform the uniform is identical with the exceptions that the hat is not the garrison cap in the photo and my fathers uniform shows no brass.
Bill Dalton
Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:42:24 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
Yep, I think it's junior ROTC. I have photos of my uncles in similar uniforms taken in the the late 1920s. Members had ranks, just like the real military.
Jonri
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