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                    <font color="#a52a2a" size="2">Q</font>
                  </b>. A cemetery-sleuthing FamilyTreeMagazine.com
Forum member, surprised to learn tombstone rubbings are prohibited in some areas, <a href="http://forum.familytreemagazine.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=368&amp;posts=10&amp;mid=3025#M3025">asked
for more information about where that’s the case</a>.<br /><br /><b><font color="#a52a2a" size="2">A</font></b>. A state, county, municipality or a
cemetery itself can set rules regarding tombstone rubbings.<br /><br />
Historic cemeteries and those popular with tourists, such as Boston’s <a href="http://www.cityofboston.gov/parks/HBGI/hbginfo.asp?ID=16">Old
Granary</a> (final resting place for many Revolutionary War heroes), often prohibit
tombstone rubbings because of the potential damage. Repeated rubbings of a stone,
even when done properly, cause deterioration over time. 
<br /><br />
Similarly, <a href="http://www.cem.va.gov/cem/cems/listcem.asp" target="blank&quot;">Department
of Veterans Affairs national cemeteries</a> also do not authorize gravestone rubbings.
(You can search burials in VA cemeteries using the <a href="http://gravelocator.cem.va.gov/j2ee/servlet/NGL_v1" target="blank&quot;">Nationwide
Gravesite Locator</a>.)<br /><br />
You also may find rubbings aren’t prohibited, but regulated. In Andover, Mass., for
example, <a href="http://andoverma.gov/facilities/cemetery/">Spring Grove Cemetery</a> requires
visitors to register with the foreman before doing a rubbing. 
<br /><br />
New Hampshire law states “No person shall make gravestone rubbings in any municipal
cemetery or burial ground without first obtaining the written permission of the town
selectmen or the mayor of a city … [who] will ascertain to the best of their ability
that the person making the request knows the proper precautions.”<br /><br />
Before you visit a cemetery to do a rubbing, call ahead to see if it's permitted.
Most cemetery Web sites I checked didn't address the issue; I’d try to talk to a person
just to be safe. 
<br /><br />
For some cemeteries, it’s not clear whom to call. Try the local municipal government
or parks department, which may take over maintenance once the family or oganization
that established a cemetery is gone. A local genealogical or historical society might
be able to give helpful information, too.<br /><br />
Before visiting a cemetery located on private property—common in rural areas—check
cemetery access laws to ensure you’re not trespassing. You may have to go during certain
hours or get permission from the landowner to cross his property.<br /><br />
Even when tombstone rubbings are allowed, use common sense: If a stone is unsteady,
crumbling or fragile, don’t take a rubbing—take a picture and make a transcription
instead.<br /><br />
See more gravestone rubbing dos and don'ts  on the <a href="http://www.gravestonestudies.org/faq.htm#Some%20Gravestone%20Rubbings%20Dos%20and%20Don%27ts">Association
for Gravestone Studies Web site</a>. 
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      <title>Don't Get Arrested Doing A Tombstone Rubbing</title>
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color="#a52a2a" size="2"&gt;Q&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. A cemetery-sleuthing FamilyTreeMagazine.com
Forum member, surprised to learn tombstone rubbings are prohibited in some areas, &lt;a href="http://forum.familytreemagazine.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=368&amp;amp;posts=10&amp;amp;mid=3025#M3025"&gt;asked
for more information about where that’s the case&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color="#a52a2a" size="2"&gt;A&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. A state, county, municipality or a
cemetery itself can set rules regarding tombstone rubbings.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Historic cemeteries and those popular with tourists, such as Boston’s &lt;a href="http://www.cityofboston.gov/parks/HBGI/hbginfo.asp?ID=16"&gt;Old
Granary&lt;/a&gt; (final resting place for many Revolutionary War heroes), often prohibit
tombstone rubbings because of the potential damage. Repeated rubbings of a stone,
even when done properly, cause deterioration over time. 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Similarly, &lt;a href="http://www.cem.va.gov/cem/cems/listcem.asp" target="blank&amp;quot;"&gt;Department
of Veterans Affairs national cemeteries&lt;/a&gt; also do not authorize gravestone rubbings.
(You can search burials in VA cemeteries using the &lt;a href="http://gravelocator.cem.va.gov/j2ee/servlet/NGL_v1" target="blank&amp;quot;"&gt;Nationwide
Gravesite Locator&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
You also may find rubbings aren’t prohibited, but regulated. In Andover, Mass., for
example, &lt;a href="http://andoverma.gov/facilities/cemetery/"&gt;Spring Grove Cemetery&lt;/a&gt; requires
visitors to register with the foreman before doing a rubbing. 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
New Hampshire law states “No person shall make gravestone rubbings in any municipal
cemetery or burial ground without first obtaining the written permission of the town
selectmen or the mayor of a city … [who] will ascertain to the best of their ability
that the person making the request knows the proper precautions.”&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Before you visit a cemetery to do a rubbing, call ahead to see if it's permitted.
Most cemetery Web sites I checked didn't address the issue; I’d try to talk to a person
just to be safe. 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
For some cemeteries, it’s not clear whom to call. Try the local municipal government
or parks department, which may take over maintenance once the family or oganization
that established a cemetery is gone. A local genealogical or historical society might
be able to give helpful information, too.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Before visiting a cemetery located on private property—common in rural areas—check
cemetery access laws to ensure you’re not trespassing. You may have to go during certain
hours or get permission from the landowner to cross his property.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Even when tombstone rubbings are allowed, use common sense: If a stone is unsteady,
crumbling or fragile, don’t take a rubbing—take a picture and make a transcription
instead.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
See more gravestone rubbing dos and don'ts&amp;nbsp; on the &lt;a href="http://www.gravestonestudies.org/faq.htm#Some%20Gravestone%20Rubbings%20Dos%20and%20Don%27ts"&gt;Association
for Gravestone Studies Web site&lt;/a&gt;. 
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            <b>Q</b>
          </font> While exploring a Jewish cemetery
in Cincinnati recently I noticed much variation among the inscriptions on tombstones.
Is there a particular date when families started using Gregorian dates rather than
Hebrew dates on graves? 
<p><a href="http://familytreemagazine.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=604%E2%80%9D" border="0"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2394/1578513822_eb90cbe383.jpg" align="right" border="0" height="392" width="297" /></a><font color="#a52a2a" size="4"><b>A</b></font> Schelly
Talalay Dardashti, whose blog, <a href="http://tracingthetribe.blogspot.com/">Tracing
the Tribe</a>, is a formidable source for researching Jewish roots, says the choice
to use secular or Hebrew dates depends on a few things: historical period, location,
and the family's affiliation and level of religious observance. 
</p><p>
"In ancient days in Europe, dates would have been only in Hebrew, with the year written
using the Hebrew alphabet characters for the numbers. In some cemeteries today, you
may find only the secular dates," she says. "In the great pre-Holocaust Jewish communities
throughout Europe, most old sections of Jewish cemeteries will show Hebrew-only inscriptions,
while newer sections may have secular dates. It was a personal choice even though
custom and tradition indicated the use of Hebrew." 
</p><p>
Today, some assimilated families might feel the Hebrew date is not important, as the
family isn't religious. In isolated areas, there may be no masons who can properly
carve Hebrew inscriptions. "Using Hebrew dates means the family understands the Jewish
calendar and what one must do on the anniversary of the individual's death," she says.
"Synagogue observances, prayers, candles at home and visits to cemetery according
to the Hebrew calendar date of death." 
</p><p>
Cincinnati was the hotbed of German Reform Judaism in America—it's the home of the
Hebrew Union College, which ordains Reform Jewish clergy. The German Jews who settled
there were very assimilated, Talalay Dardashti says. 
</p><p>
The deceased individual might have left instructions to do things one way or the other,
but the children may decide if left with no instructions, she says. But when it comes
down to it, picking a style of dates is a personal choice unless cemetery regulations
stipulate them. 
</p><p>
For more resources on Jewish heritage, check out <i>Family Tree Magazine</i>'s <a href="http://www.familytreemagazine.com/aug06.asp">August
2006 issue</a>. 
</p><p>
To easily convert Hebrew dates, you can use Steve Morse's <a href="http://stevemorse.org/jcal/jcal.html">Jewish
Calendar Conversions in One Step</a> and <a href="http://stevemorse.org/jcal/tombstone.html">tombstone
decipherer</a>. JewishGen.org has a great tutorial on reading Hebrew tombstones <a href="http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/tombstones.html">here</a>. 
</p><p>
Want to share your own pictures from your cemetery visits? <a href="http://familytreemagazine.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=604">Come
on over to the Cemetery Central Forum</a>. 
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      <title>Who uses Hebrew dates?</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;&lt;font color="#a52a2a" size="4"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Q&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt; While exploring a Jewish cemetery
in Cincinnati recently I noticed much variation among the inscriptions on tombstones.
Is there a particular date when families started using Gregorian dates rather than
Hebrew dates on graves? 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://familytreemagazine.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=604%E2%80%9D" border="0"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2394/1578513822_eb90cbe383.jpg" align="right" border="0" height="392" width="297"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;font color="#a52a2a" size="4"&gt;&lt;b&gt;A&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt; Schelly
Talalay Dardashti, whose blog, &lt;a href="http://tracingthetribe.blogspot.com/"&gt;Tracing
the Tribe&lt;/a&gt;, is a formidable source for researching Jewish roots, says the choice
to use secular or Hebrew dates depends on a few things: historical period, location,
and the family's affiliation and level of religious observance. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
"In ancient days in Europe, dates would have been only in Hebrew, with the year written
using the Hebrew alphabet characters for the numbers. In some cemeteries today, you
may find only the secular dates," she says. "In the great pre-Holocaust Jewish communities
throughout Europe, most old sections of Jewish cemeteries will show Hebrew-only inscriptions,
while newer sections may have secular dates. It was a personal choice even though
custom and tradition indicated the use of Hebrew." 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Today, some assimilated families might feel the Hebrew date is not important, as the
family isn't religious. In isolated areas, there may be no masons who can properly
carve Hebrew inscriptions. "Using Hebrew dates means the family understands the Jewish
calendar and what one must do on the anniversary of the individual's death," she says.
"Synagogue observances, prayers, candles at home and visits to cemetery according
to the Hebrew calendar date of death." 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Cincinnati was the hotbed of German Reform Judaism in America—it's the home of the
Hebrew Union College, which ordains Reform Jewish clergy. The German Jews who settled
there were very assimilated, Talalay Dardashti says. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The deceased individual might have left instructions to do things one way or the other,
but the children may decide if left with no instructions, she says. But when it comes
down to it, picking a style of dates is a personal choice unless cemetery regulations
stipulate them. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
For more resources on Jewish heritage, check out &lt;i&gt;Family Tree Magazine&lt;/i&gt;'s &lt;a href="http://www.familytreemagazine.com/aug06.asp"&gt;August
2006 issue&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
To easily convert Hebrew dates, you can use Steve Morse's &lt;a href="http://stevemorse.org/jcal/jcal.html"&gt;Jewish
Calendar Conversions in One Step&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://stevemorse.org/jcal/tombstone.html"&gt;tombstone
decipherer&lt;/a&gt;. JewishGen.org has a great tutorial on reading Hebrew tombstones &lt;a href="http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/tombstones.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Want to share your own pictures from your cemetery visits? &lt;a href="http://familytreemagazine.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=604"&gt;Come
on over to the Cemetery Central Forum&lt;/a&gt;. 
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