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# Thursday, April 11, 2013
Your Ancestor's SS-5: Get It Before It's Too Late
Posted by Diane

It's time to look up your 20th-century ancestors in the Social Security Death Index and request their Social Security number applications (SS-5s) if you haven't already.

Threats to close the Social Security Death Index are resurfacing with a vengeance: President Obama's budget proposal would give the Commissioner of Social Security license to grant or deny access to the SSDI and our ancestors' SS-5 forms. It makes the records' availability subject to a bureaucrat instead of the Freedom of Information Act.

Other genealogy bloggers have expertly explained why there are more effective ways to prevent tax fraud and protect the identities of taxpayers, while also meeting the needs of genealogy hobbyists and those who use Social Security records to identify survivors of deceased servicemembers and unclaimed persons. Read more from:
I'll explain what the SSDI is and why it's important to genealogy: The SSDI is a computerized file of deceased individuals whose deaths have been reported to the Social Security Administration. It contains mostly deaths from 1962 and later, though my great-grandfather who died in 1949 is listed.

You can search the SSDI on websites including FamilySearch.org and Ancestry.com (which excludes recent deaths) and order your ancestor's SS-5 for a fee from the Social Security Administration under the Freedom of Information Act.

Once you find an ancestor in the SSDI, you can request his or her SS-5, which requests parents' names, among other information. This is the only record I've ever found giving my great-grandfather's mother's name.

Here's how to order your ancestor's SS-5.


Public Records | Vital Records
Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:31:20 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)  #  Comments [3]
Friday, April 12, 2013 11:05:43 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
I have been told that ordering an ancestor's SS-5 these days will only get you a copy of the application with their ancestor's parents' names blacked out.
Karen Trout
Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:04:44 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
Hi, Karen, it sounds like that's the case for SS-5 records of individuals born after 1940, with the reasoning that the parents could still be alive. See this article from Megan Smolenyak: http://megansmolenyak.posterous.com/social-security-administration-extends-foia-r
Diane
Monday, June 03, 2013 6:04:45 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
Karen, you need proof of death to avoid that unless the person, or the parents, are old enough to be considered dead without proof. Unfortunately, you can't provide proof if you use the online ordering option.

Judy posted a good blog article several days ago on ordering a copy,

http://legalgenealogist.com/blog/2013/05/31/ordering-the-ss-5

Looks like they will accept an obit or police report as proof of death in addition to the standard death certificate.

My problem is trying to order my grandmother's since I am missing some key information.
Robert Stewart
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